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eldervampire83's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Ableism, Confinement, Gore, Sexism, Sexual assault, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Medical content, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Animal death, Body horror, Death, Racism, Sexual content, Slavery, Blood, Vomit, Cannibalism, Fire/Fire injury, Colonisation, and Classism
Minor: Fatphobia and Police brutality
garrpla's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.75
Further development into the characters reveals a softer side of them, even those such as Jezel who I originally despised! It is also significantly darker and more violent than the previous novel, though the action for me added to the entertainment.
Before They are Hanged truly starts and continues to shape the direction of the trilogy, though the ending is not what we readers expect.
Graphic: Animal death, Cursing, Death, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Torture, Violence, Blood, Murder, and War
atalea's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Death, Torture, Violence, Blood, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Animal death, Sexual content, Slavery, Suicide, Alcohol, and Colonisation
Minor: Rape, Sexual assault, and Excrement
madamgreene's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Animal death and Torture
Moderate: Rape
sophieamreacher's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Ableism, Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Body shaming, Chronic illness, Confinement, Cursing, Death, Gore, Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicide, Terminal illness, Torture, Violence, Blood, Excrement, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Cannibalism, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, War, and Injury/Injury detail
nerdkitten's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Animal death, Body horror, Cursing, Death, Gore, Racism, Sexual content, Torture, Violence, Blood, Cannibalism, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Colonisation, War, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Confinement, Panic attacks/disorders, Sexual assault, Xenophobia, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, and Alcohol
Minor: Ableism, Alcoholism, Body shaming, Child death, Misogyny, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Slavery, Excrement, Trafficking, Cultural appropriation, and Abandonment
singalana's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Graphic: Death, Gore, Torture, Violence, Blood, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Animal death, Chronic illness, Cursing, Sexual assault, and Sexual content
Minor: Body horror, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Rape, Sexism, Slavery, Vomit, Medical content, Trafficking, Grief, Cannibalism, Fire/Fire injury, Alcohol, and Colonisation
mikarala's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
I flirted with rating this 4.5 stars, actually, and up until maybe 300-350 pages in, maybe I would have. Unfortunately, that's the point where the tension peaked overall for the book, so I have a similar problem with Book 2 as I did with Book 1, which is that I think the pacing is not great. Again, it was a lot better this time, and overall this book maintained tension pretty well throughout, but if the actual climax of the book doesn't beat the midpoint for action and tension, that's a problem for me. I understand this is more or less a consequence of having 3 separate plotlines in this book and needing to cover a certain amount of ground before Book 3 starts, but it's still something I personally find frustrating.
One other gripe I have is that the characters, while not necessarily shallow, sort of seem defined by like one (1) thing from their past. Except for maybe Logen, the characters don't often reflect on anything from the past in their POV chapters, and if they do, it's basically the same damn thing every time. Jezal has older brothers he feels competitive with, but they don't have names or specific memories attached to them. Glokta was a famed warrior before he was tortured and made a cripple as a POW, but he only ever thinks about that in general terms. With Ferro, we more or less only get her backstory when other characters make her talk about it, otherwise she just think about how she wants vengeance on the Gurkish for making her a slave, with nothing about that experience described in any detail.
Again, I won't say the characters are shallow, overall. For the most part, they have complex motives and feelings, and there's character growth, too. So maybe it's just a personal preference that's not being met here, but the fact that the character histories are so bare-bones just feels like some missing depth. This is also how I feel about Abercrombie's world-building, for what it's worth. I think he does a much better job on that score than in Book 1, but it still seems a bit surface-level. It kind of feels like he's trying to cover so much ground in terms of having multiple character threads and plotlines that will hopefully converge in Book 3, that he doesn't have the time to actually flesh out the world beyond what's absolutely necessary for the story. It's functional, but it doesn't make me feel immersed in the world the way I like in a fantasy setting.
However, I did rate this 4 stars, so let's talk about what I liked: first of all, as I wrote earlier, this book does a great job of maintaining quite a high level of tension throughout. Although it does dip somewhat towards the back third, there's still a lot going on that's intriguing, surprising, and overall gets you invested in the action. Whereas I felt like Book 1 spent a long time lingering on boring and unimportant shit, all the events in this book felt relevant and important to forward the plot or develop the characters/world-building.
I also really loved the character dynamics. Seeing a couple of different POV's from the first book collide and now working together in the sequel was honestly just really fun, and I liked to see how they bounced off each other. There were three separate plot lines in this book: one with Logen, Ferro, and Jezal following Bayaz across the Old Empire to retrieve a magical MacGuffin, one with West and Dogman & co colliding as the army of Northmen march on Angland, and one of Glokta in the South trying to hold the city of Dagoska against seemingly impossible odds as a Gurkish army beseiged it. Of the three, I probably liked the first the most, I guess because it seemed like the most important to the brewing fight against Khalul and his Eaters that appears to be the larger conflict of the trilogy, but also because I just enjoyed the mix of personalities. However, I actually liked the other plotlines overall as well (a huge improvement over Book 1, where I pretty much only liked following Logen's POV). The North/Angland war plotline did the best job of actually building towards a big climax at the end, with an entertaining dynamic from the clash of cultures as West began to work with our crew of Northmen.
The Glokta storyline was somewhat more frustrating for me. I was really invested in his political intrigues in Dagoska and seeing him prepare for a siege, but that plotline peaked at the midpoint of the story.
But overall, a really strong second entry for a fantasy trilogy, that does a great job of bringing elements from the first book together, challenging our MC's in exciting and interesting situations, and ramping up the tension for the series' conclusion.
Graphic: Animal death, Violence, and War
Moderate: Racism, Self harm, and Sexual assault
Minor: Cannibalism
whichwitcher's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
We get top-tier character work again from Abercrombie. His writing is punchy and humorous, and, at times, it can be profound.
We got a little in the way of plot in book two, but I'd have preferred more. It felt like if The Blade Itself introduced us to individual characters and storylines, then Before They Are Hanged introduced us to how they interact as part of a group. I'm still itching to flesh out the central thread - and I'm dying to see how characters' storylines converge, if at all.
Please do be aware of the following trigger warnings prior to reading: Ableism, Alcoholism, Amputation, Animal murder, Assault, Attempted rape, Blood, Cannibalism, Death, Decapitation, Emesis (vomiting), Famine, Genocide, Gore, Misogyny, Murder, Racism, Sexually explicit scene, Skeletons, Slavery, Torture, War
Graphic: Ableism, Body horror, Death, Gore, Misogyny, Torture, Blood, Cannibalism, Murder, and War
Moderate: Animal death, Genocide, Rape, Sexism, Sexual violence, and Slavery
Minor: Alcohol
saemiligr's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Animal death, Chronic illness, Cursing, Death, Gore, Torture, Violence, Blood, Medical trauma, Murder, Sexual harassment, War, and Injury/Injury detail