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andrew_ebelher's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I’m emotionally broken and so excited to finish the series.
Graphic: Death, Gore, Sexual assault, Suicide, Torture, Violence, Blood, Murder, and War
eldervampire83's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Ableism, Confinement, Gore, Sexism, Sexual assault, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Medical content, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Animal death, Body horror, Death, Racism, Sexual content, Slavery, Blood, Vomit, Cannibalism, Fire/Fire injury, Colonisation, and Classism
Minor: Fatphobia and Police brutality
duedate8898's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Gore, Violence, and Blood
lostkorok's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Yet I feel political intrigues could have been better developed; some characters were removed without having had sufficient importance to the reader to actually care for them, the implications of their disappearance later explain by the author through other characters' dialogues. Not a good way to make one feel the stakes, or to connect with the situation.
There's also some sexual relationship starting in this book that feel a bit abrupt in their flourishing, as if they were written just for the sake of adding them, and not because character development or plot really built up to them (in my opinion).
All in all, still a good read, better than the first book I feel, but still short of a 5 for what I expected of this genre.
Graphic: War
Moderate: Gore, Sexual content, and Torture
Minor: Sexual assault
barry_x's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
So, my general rule of thumb is if a book is glued to my side when I am reading then I know I am having a good time. I so looked forward to going to bed early to read for an hour, and then grabbing the book for a quick read before work and at lunchtimes. This book really grabbed me, and the structure of the book made me want to read the next chapter as soon as I could.
'Before They Are Hanged' is the second book in 'The First Law' trilogy and I am glad I hadn't left several years before reading this having read the first book in the autumn last year. All the characters and their history and their motivations were brought back to me in an instant. I guess this is my first niggle in that the book really doesn't work unless you've read the first. Whilst series are designed to be enjoyed from end to end I kind of think that they should work as standalones too and I am not sure this does.
This book also suffers in the same as the first one in that it really does not have a fulfilling ending, indeed, it is quite the false finish that veers on disappointment and frustration. I get what Abercrombie is trying to do (please read my third book) but there is a sense that much of the book is a waste of time (and without getting into spoiler territory I can make a good argument that it isn't too, but I connected to my emotions on this one).
If 'The Blade Itself' was all about introducing the characters and 'getting the band together' then 'Before They Are Hanged' is more to do with splitting the band up. Whilst the first book had quite a few different points of view and threads spreading a few continents this book is still contained. There is still pretty much the same cast from the first book and we do get their points of view the book is pretty much divided into three plot threads so early on in the novel, pretty much everyone is involved in their thread on a continent and very few get to meet up again. The other thing I found was at the end of a chapter, I found myself wanting to jump to another place in the story wanting to know what happened. That's quite cool because although I had my favourite thread, it didn't stop me wanting to see what was happening on another.
The main plot is Bayaz, a grumpy old wizard, his apprentice Quai, and navigator Longfoot joining forces with Jezal a layabout noble into drinking and women who is nifty with a sword, Ferro a former slave and highly aggressive and closed off fighter and Logen, a Northman beserker named the Bloody Nine feared everywhere. This is largely the group brought together at the end of the first novel to go on a quest through a barren empty land to the 'end of the world'. This thread often meanders and you do get the sense of a never ending journey where not a lot happens. There is occasional peril and violence but it is slow going. In this section this is where we learn more about the world and it's history and why people are where they are and why the nations are. We get a lot of lore here from the history of the world (short version - a bunch of powerful wizards fall out). If I am being honest this made me glaze over a little bit, finding the politics of wizards thousands of years ago not that important. What this section does though in it's sometimes pedestrian way is provide some of the best character development I have ever read.
Indeed, it is in the character development that this novel shines. We learn Logen is a really decent guy trying to learn from his past and be a better man. Ferro slowly breaks down some of her barriers that she needs to protect herself from the world. Jezal becomes the man people think he appears to be and loses some of his prejudices. It all feels quite organic and introspective. I also kind of liked the awkwardness of a 'romantic' relationship and how wounded people need people too, even if it is hard to break down.
The second part of the novel focus's on Inquisitor Glotka (effectively a secret police state sanctioned torturer) sent to investigate the murder of a colleague and on the side defend a city from attack in impossible odds. He's toned down quite a lot from the first book, but we get so many of his inner monologues and sarcasm and it is hard not to view him sympathetically. In the first novel he is broken by torture and the only thing he values himself as is of the breaker of others. His humanity comes through here. Is he a nice guy? No! But he is trying to get the best out of a shit situation.
The third part of the novel is a battle in the north. The Union (the state in the book) have been invaded by 'the King in the North' over 'their' territory Angland. They send their armies to fight the barbarians, including sending their idiot prince to claim some glory. There's some good military fiction here, the expected pampered privileged elite making disasters and the stars of the book Logen's former band of fighters. Logen thinks they are dead, they think he is so we know what book three is bringing. This band were often pitched as cold blooded murderers in the first book but here again they show their humanity in a variety of ways. This was my favourite thread in the book by far. I loved this gang and their intersection with the Union military and other characters. There are scenes in this plot thread that you are just certain are going to have repercussions later and were quite shocking in both a good and bad way! I can't wait to see what happens to them.
The action in the book is always engaging. The violence is brutal and gory but doesn't feel exploitative or overly grim (well it's borderline sometimes!). The world building and characterisation is excellent. I think the romance, sex and general presentation of women leans into the male gaze too much but that aside I really enjoyed this. I'll definitely read the next book.
Graphic: Gore, Torture, and Violence
Minor: Rape
chogangoof's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
I'm still impressed by how I enjoy reading every pov, every character is amazing. My least favorite pov from last book was one of the best in this book. It's VERY rare to have a fantasy book where you look forward to every single pov but this book does it. This series MIGHT go down as having the most well rounded cast of characters that I've read in fantasy.
I do have issues with it tho. One storyline, set around the siege of a city, felt like it ended a little too early, I understand that it's still kind of going on but it feels like we left too soon. One relationship is weird to me, it seems out of character for one of those involved; it feels forced to me but I have to see how it turns out to truly judge
My complaints are slight and don't get in the way of what is an absolutely incredible book. I would rate it 4.5/5 but that will probably go up after I finish the trilogy. Mr Abercrombie more than delivered.
Graphic: Body horror, Gore, Torture, Violence, War, and Classism
Moderate: Rape, Slavery, and Alcohol
andytrueredt's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Gore, Rape, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Violence, and War
smolena's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
We don't have the shocking revelations and twists of the first one, sure, but the character work continues to be superb, the plot is still fast paced and exciting not only bcoz plot but also thanks to the pov switches - every time we switch I'm mad about abandoning the current one but also excited to see what's going on with the others - none of the pov's are a drag!
I'm getting #3 without hesitation, I want to start it asap!!!
I love Glokta as a character. As a person deff not but as a character he is so interesting. His Superior of Dagoska arc has been great to see, we finally see why he was such a "promising young man" in his youth and how he could still be so much more than a simple torturer.
I'm confused about Jezal lol, I can't believe one injury was enough to force him into a complete 180° but then again he has no idea who he is is the main theme for him. I can see him returning to his old ways but also another tragedy forcing him into a more balanced, "realistic" worldview. I only hope we didn't set up this over the top hopeful cheery pink glasses Jezal just to kill him.
West might have become my fave character just bcoz of how the author plays with the readers into liking him then doing something awful then liking him again then he does something even more awful :')
He is set up as "just a good guy trying to do the right thing" character but then he also has this rage inside of him that snaps so unexpectedly and viciously.
(I love that he killed Ladisla, I always knew he would I just didn't know what would be his excuse, we all knew he needed an excuse to justify it to himself but he was always going to kill him I feel like)
I love the journey to the end of the world, I'm in love with all these relics of the past that have been so thoroughly destroyed and forgotten that it's surreal to see them in the physical world. I like having this character that has seen all this at the height of its glory, Bayaz, tell the tales, but I'm a bit confused as to why we didn't make him more god-like. More crestfallen-knight kind of deal, more of a Dark Souls forgotten-gods type of deal. I know it might be deliberate to show all these legends of old were "just men like you and me" but I would prefer to feel something ancient, some hing *other* inside of Bayaz instead.
Logen is such a cool dude. Now that we got the big reveal about the Bloody Nine, I somehow like him even more. Altho it was obvious, I like the romance w Ferro, it's good for them. I was surprised to see how Ferro thinks of it and how she allows herself to have nice feelings about it. I understand why she couldn't express them to Logen but I don't understand why Logen couldn't say anything about his feelings to her; that felt a bit out of character tbh, he's a simple, honest dude and he understands Ferro so I feel like he could have bridged that gap but ok.
I'm calling bs on apprentice Quai - there is something wrong with him, idk if he's possessed or something but something's not right.
The twist at the end of the world was maybe a bit foreseeable but I loved it none the less, it's p amusing hehe :)
Moderate: Gore
Minor: Rape
msawyer77's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Body horror, Death, Gore, Sexual content, Torture, Violence, Blood, Vomit, Murder, War, and Injury/Injury detail
sophieamreacher's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Ableism, Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Body shaming, Chronic illness, Confinement, Cursing, Death, Gore, Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicide, Terminal illness, Torture, Violence, Blood, Excrement, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Cannibalism, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, War, and Injury/Injury detail